White House yanks TSA petition

EPIC reports that the White House suddenly cut off the time period allotted for signatures to an anti-TSA petition that has been gaining steam and pulled the petition off its website.

About 22,500 of the 25,000 signatures necessary for a response from the Administration were obtained when the White House unexpectedly cut short the time period for the petition. The site also went down for “maintenance” following an article in Wired that sought support for the campaign. 

How’s that hope and change working out for you?

And please don’t turn this into a left/right slugfest. I voted for Obama in 2008. I was still stuck in the false dichotomy of what passes for politics in this country. Obama has turned out to be just as much of a disaster as Bush was, as McCain would’ve been, and as anyone else from either of the two major parties will be. Neither the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party, with rare exceptions, gives a toss about civil liberties. They care only about staying in power. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can start to change things in this country, including the abuses of the TSA.

UPDATE Monday, August 13, 2012: According to the Twitter feed of Jim Harper of the Cato Institute, the petition technically ended on time. However, the petition website was down for a while “for maintenance”; therefore, to be fair, that time should’ve been made up, because people obviously couldn’t sign the TSA — or any other — petition while the site was down. In other words, if the site was down for one hour, the petition should’ve been allowed to stay up for an extra hour, if two hours, two, etc.

  • Truth Teller

    THIS IS A LIE. The TSA petition EXPIRED after not reaching the required number of signatures after 30 days. Jim Harper of the CATO institute admits as much on his Twitter feed. The White House didn’t pull it, it expired when it reached its time limit without the required 25,000 signatures in 30 days. Ask Jim Harper, who started the petition, yourself.
    But, of course, you won’t, because you are as dishonest as the TSA.

    • Dear “Truth Teller,” please post the link if you have it. I quoted EPIC, which has always been a reliable organization. If you have different information that refutes what EPIC wrote, we’d like to see it so we can correct the record.

      • Also, “Truth Teller,” it would help if you wouldn’t act as a sock puppet. You’ve already left comments at TSA News as “WillyG” two months ago,” as “AnActualFlyer” three days ago, and now as “Truth Teller.” I can check your IP address and see that you are the same person, even though you’re using different internet monikers and different email addresses. Guess you’re going to have to start posting from different computers at different IP addresses from now on if you want to continue your ruse.

        • cjr001

          So much for telling the truth on his part.

    • 1amWendy

      Gee – I would expect more from people than your little games, Willy. Or whatever your name is. Troll. Outed troll, BTW…

    • “Truth Teller,” Lisa Simeone and I are politically on the opposite ends of the spectrum. But, she has posted countless times on my blog and I have gotten numerous emails from her and I have found her to be a person of integrity. You, per Lisa’s note below, appear to be a person who doesn’t even post under the same fake name! Why not post in your real name as Lisa Simeone and I do? We not only have nothing to hide, we are open about our identities. And you call her “dishonest”? Please.

    • This is a questionable call, I’ll admit. The petitioners clearly believed they had until the end of the day August 9th to reach the signature threshold, and in the last three hours of voting, they received at least two thousand signatures. I was watching and promoting the poll myself. Several articles on major web news outlets appeared on that last morning, and many blogs were engaged in a big push to reach the threshold on the last day.

      Having the petition pulled mid-morning after setting it on a clear path to get 25,000 signatures by the evening seemed a dirty trick, but nothing on the White House website gives a clear answer about what time a petition expires. Here’s the text that appeared next to the signature line ”

      Signatures needed by August 9, 2012 to reach goal of 25,000: xxxxx”

      I think that the language implies petitioners should have until the end of the day on August 9th.

      • I have updated the post; see above. We’re concerned with being accurate at TSA News, despite what some might believe to the contrary.

  • I would like to say something like, “Unbelievable!” Only it’s not. Nor
    will it be any different under Romney. Who doesn’t have a snowballs
    chance in hell of winning. I’m banking on Rand Paul 2016 after four more
    years of Obama. Rand may have his tiny flaws, but he’s anti-TSA (and
    NDAA, Patriot Act, EPA, FDA). That’s the change I’m looking for.

    • Liberty Buys, alas, whoever’s Pres, now or in the future, isn’t going to change anything. I agree with activists at the ACLU, EPIC, Cato Institute, and elsewhere: change has to come from the people. From us. People have to stand up and say “enough.” And right now, we are nowhere near a critical mass in this country of people who are willing to say “enough.” Nowhere near.

      I’m sad to have to say it, because it’s depressing as hell that so many people don’t give a flying fig about civil liberties, but it’s true. Unless and until more people wake up, grow up, and start acting like citizens instead of scared herd animals, nothing will change. In fact, it will only get worse.

      • anc1entmar1ner

        Thank you, Lisa. What you say is depressing, but it needs to be said. I think much of the decline in support for basic rights stems from the disappearance of civics classes in our schools. Back in the day, teachers taught about the Bill of Rights and encouraged students to discuss these issues in the classroom. This doesn’t happen much anymore.

        • anc1entmar1ner, I wish I could say lack of civics was the reason, but many of the TSA apologists and security cheerleaders I know are of an older generation, who had plenty of civics lessons and plenty of discussions. I’m afraid this issue has nothing to do with age, or level of education. Many of those same TSA apologists are highly — nay, hyper — educated.

          Bottom line — they don’t have the courage of their professed convictions.

          • Daisiemae

            I am blown away that the baby boomer generation is not completely up in arms about TSA. This is the generation that protested Vietnam Nam and demonstrated for civil rights, the generation that effected tremendous social and political change. Where are all the baby boomer protesters?

            As a boomer myself, I’ve always been proud of the way my generation changed our society. Now I’m ashamed of our silence and acceptance of this monstrous injustice.

          • Daisiemae, I was born in 1957, so I guess that makes me a late boomer (the definition keeps getting changed). I’m up in arms about the TSA — and the abrogation of civil liberties in general — but only a handful of my friends are. Many of them are highly educated, including some lawyers in the bunch. You’d think lawyers of all people would get it.

            But they don’t. At least not the ones I know.

            Certain people in my circle are in their 70s and haven’t a clue — rather, don’t care — what the TSA is doing. Their sentiment is purely, “just get me to my flight on time!” And, of course, “nothing bad has ever happened to me.”

            I just had a long, detailed conversation with a 69-year-old university professor last week. She is an intelligent and rather scarily accomplished woman. She has traveled all over the world. Her statement to me: “You’re the first person I’ve ever talked to who has a problem with the TSA.”

            Again, this has nothing to do with age or level of education. People who want to be in denial will be in denial. It’s that simple.

        • Daisiemae

          Exactly right. And who controls what is taught in our schools? The government, of course.

          So don’t look for any civics lessons that will teach our young people what our rights are and how to protect and defend them. Instead look for lessons on blind obedience to the government regime…no matter how anti American they are.

  • Bill O Rights

    Here is some simple truth for all of you to hear. We have a 1 Party system that only PRETENDS to be a 2 Party system. They argue about Wedge Issues while conspiring behind the scenes to take away our freedom. Our government has been taken over by a CABAL of corrupt criminals.

    • Bill O Rights, totally agree. (And by the way, love the screen name!)

  • Let’s be fair here. We should at least give Obama credit for fulfilling the promise of transparency in his administration. After all, has it ever been easier to see right through the executive branch bullshit?

  • cjr001

    It’s been obvious from the start that this administration – while certainly effective at killing the hell out of terrorists overseas – was going to do jack squat about preserving our rights and freedoms here.

    • There are no terrorists overseas. WE are the terrorists, bombing and killing little brown peasants in oil-rich countries that have no central bank. Now we are financing al Qaeda in Syria. Nice. We got a way about us…