TSA assaults & traumatizes three-year-old girl in wheelchair

EDITOR’S NOTE: The comment thread on this post wasn’t closed down because the frat boys were “rude and crude.” I have no problem with rude and crude. There’s a limit, of course, to everything. But I believe in free speech. And I’m an adult, not a tender 6-year-old or a pearl-clutching Pollyanna with delicate sensibilities. I don’t go creeping off into a corner to cry just because somebody calls me a “bad name.”

I closed the comment thread because we couldn’t keep up. We were getting overwhelmed, and we’ve had server problems here as it is. Readers will note that I left up all the so-called objectionable comments. Again, free speech. Being called a c*** is hardly going to ruin my life. And that thread was an anomaly. It’s the only time in the history of this blog that a comment thread has turned out like that. -LS

UPDATES BELOW.

I wish I could say that this is a new low for the contemptible thugs in blue for whose equipment and “services” taxpayers pay billions of dollars every year. Sadly, it isn’t. It’s just par for the course; another Day in Despotism here in the Land of the Meek, Home of the Afraid.

In case you couldn’t bring yourself to watch this indisputable display of abuse — this disgusting mistreatment of a little girl and her family about which her mother (Annie Schulte) and father comment “look at her all dressing like a potential terrorist/drug trafficker; people who roll in on hot pink wheelchairs, wearing a gingerbread coat and clutching a stuffed baby lamb, are just begging to be harassed” — let me itemize the violations and absurdities at hand (perhaps you can identify more; as a mother myself, I’m too upset by what I just watched to further research the laws, statutory and logical):

First, there is the obvious Fourth Amendment violation against unwarranted search and seizure. I don’t care what kind of pretzel logic the TSA twists itself into parroting in order to justify groping a three-year-old in a wheelchair who’s on her way to Disney World: it’s a violation of her Constitutional rights. Period. Full stop.

And this should not stand. Not in the country that calls itself the United States of America. Citizens and residents who accept otherwise should not only be ashamed of themselves, but should, in my opinion, be constantly, and in strenuous terms, be made aware that they’re engaging in a kind of treason against the very freedoms the nation’s founders established (and countless fought for and died to protect), and thus, by extension, debasing the idea of America itself.

Second, travelers are indeed permitted to photograph and/or videotape the so-called “screening procedure” (more accurately, security theatre), including aggressive pat-downs that would be defined as sexual assault in any other context and nude photography of their bodies. The only subject matter exempt from passengers’ freedom-to-document are the screening machines themselves. As shown in the above video, these TSA screeners try to claim otherwise and keep harping on their imagined rule that the passengers can’t record the incident, even as the parents ask them to cite the actual law pertaining thereto.

Third, the tactics here are insensitive and unkind on their face, as well as pointless. Not only is this little girl so obviously terrified to the point of crying out loud, and desperately upset that her comfort toy — her stuffed animal — is being taken away, she is distraught that her parents’ attempts to protect her are being summarily ignored. Imagine how frightening that must be. If indeed the child “alarmed,” the screeners could have resolved the matter by allowing one of the cleared parents to carry her through the metal detector in their arms while they checked her wheelchair for hidden bombs, machetes, or fuselage-piercing grenade launchers.

What will it take for the American public to recognize how wrong this is, all of it, and demand that our so-called leaders put an end to it? Why are citizens not carrying out a full-on economic boycott of the airlines for all non-essential travel? What will it take, if not the unconstitutional persecution of a little child in a wheelchair?

Cross-posted at Information Clearinghouse and litbrit.

UPDATE: This happened at Lambert-St. Louis International Airport in Missouri. And we learn from this more detailed report that the family had already made it through the checkpoint with no problems, without alarming anything. Yet the blue-shirts pulled them aside anyway. “The TSA did not return phone calls or emails seeking comment.” Gee. Quelle surprise.

UPDATE #2: Read the TSA’s standard boilerplate fake apology here.

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Deborah Newell Tornello

Deborah Newell Tornello is a mother, writer, and citizen of the world; she was born in England and educated there, as well as in Barbados, Honduras, and the United States. She created the blog Litbrit in 2006 and lives with her family--and several large and loyal attack dogs and trained-assassin felines--in sunny Florida, USA.

  • Pat

    The supporters of this blog would get more supporters and would have more conviction in their arguments if they lost the whole “holier than thou” attitude. Condoning this search does not make you a TSA apologist is simply means you like safety. TSA, as a single entity, is an asshole. That does not mean I do not want them there. Furthermore, I can promise us “apologists” are educated, or at least I am. and employed. I do not mean this as preachy and I hope it is not taken that way and it is not meant as a slight, but talking down to others especially on the internet does not make you smarter (and yes I know I said stupid shit too).

    • NightmareAt20000

      Exactly.

  • SicSemperTyrannis

    This whole discussion is really a simple one. If the US government had acted on the potential that middle eastern terrorists (but I repeat myself) were planning attacks on or around 9-11, how many of you TSA apologists would have supported the profiling of every middle eastern flyer for an indefinite amount of time until the perceived threat has passed? My guess is none. My guess is also that your solution would be to screen every flyer with the very same idiotic methods being used now although there was no intelligence that anyone other than middle eastern men between the ages of 20 and 40 were the suspected terrorists. Can’t hurt anyone’s feelings, other than law abiding US citizens, now can we?

    • RonBonner

      If government had controlled our borders and not allowed people with expired visa to remain in country there is a good chance 9/11 would have happened.

      • ZBooty

        Edit* Spelling and punctuation.

  • Susan Richart

    All, these individuals are just turds. Ignore them. They aren’t worth our time.

    • ZBooty

      Calm down, Susan.

    • Lars

      hahahahah that’s the MOST typical thing I could have predicted. “MMM these ppl don’t agree with us so I am going to belittle their ideas and thoughts rather than have a conversation about the topic”
      You are pathetic lady

  • NightmareAt20000

    Ok, first of all, let me quote from the blurb that says what this blog is supposed to be about: “We are dedicated to writing about the agency with fairness, balance and accuracy.”

    So it’s pretty clear that that’s bullshit. You must mean those terms in the same sense that Fox News is “fair and balanced.” Love how at both extremes of the spectrum you find pretty much the same level of hatred, bad-faith and lack of true discourse (“Attack the non-believer trolls!!!”). Sorry to intrude upon your unintentionally self-parodying echo chamber.

    The simple fact is that nothing in this video remotely suggests that this child was assaulted or terrorized. The mother is incredibly annoying and is clearly grand-standing and engaged in some low-end street theater. Get a grip. What this web site — and all of you — desperately need is for Matt and Trey from South Park to do a brutal takedown on how self-righteous and close-minded you are.

    • SicSemperTyrannis

      Oh wow, a Fox News hater. Who saw that coming? Thanks for being exactly the stereotype I expected in a TSA defender.

      • Lars

        SST I think you have that backwards. Generally it’s gonna be the Liz Warren/Obama voting crowd sticking up for this little girl and her wacked out mom. Spewing BS about Liberties, rights, froo froo intelectual things, ideological time wasters, the ACLU, etc.

        • SicSemperTyrannis

          No, it’s not, not even close. Who, may I ask, has presided over the most intrusive violations of individual rights via the TSA? I’ll give you a hint. It rhymes with Napolitano. And what do all the TSA agents belong to? That’s right, a public sector union. Two poster children for Obama’s overreaching government.

          • Lars

            I think we’re saying the same thing here.

          • SicSemperTyrannis

            If that’s the case my apologies.

  • clementine

    I do absolutely understand how this can be viewed as a bad thing… But… Where is the abuse? what are we talking about here

    • SicSemperTyrannis

      Not sure if you have kids, but if you did, and one in a wheel chair and some dipshits from TSA gave her the full “you’re a terrorist” pat down, how exactly would you respond?

  • SicSemperTyrannis

    It’s really simple. We are a nation of PC cowards. Going in, we know exactly what the profile is of 99.99% of terrorists, but we refuse to allocate resources correctly to deal with the problem. Instead we molest western children and old ladies knowing full well that neither has ever been used or willingly participated in a terrorist attack on the US or our air carriers. But of course the same political party to refuses to profile potential terrorists are also the biggest apologist for union (TSA) misbehavior. The typical TSA agent isn’t qualified to guard an outhouse and yet we put these people in charge or securing air travel. And they are protected and defended only because they are union members.

    The worst part is that people here comment that this is the price of safety while flying. Are you serious? These idiots couldn’t catch cold let alone a well trained terrorist.

    What a sad state of affairs indeed.

    • ZBooty

      Where, exactly did these people fuck up their job?

      • SicSemperTyrannis

        I know you TSA apologists would see no wrong if i showed you a video of one strangling a bunny, but government clowns reducing a poor little girl to hysteric tears is a major fuck up. I don’t want to hear about their job, their mandate or any of that other shit. They are idiots, empowered by idiots and completely incompetent in stopping a real terrorist.

        • ZBooty

          It sure looked to me like her mother throwing a shit fit and thrusting a camera into her poor child’s face is what caused the hysterics. It certainly wasn’t the mild mannered woman trying to do her job.

          • SicSemperTyrannis

            Yes, how dare a mom want to have a video record of some TSA clown patting down her 3 year old daughter in a wheel chair.

          • ZBooty

            That child wasn’t touched a single time in that video.

      • CelticWhisper

        I’ll tell you exactly where: In their normal course of performing it.

        Doing a fucked-up job is, necessarily, fucking up one’s job. It’s a job that should never be done, and so they are GUILTY of doing it.

    • SST, agree with all except the crude profiling part. Bruce Schneier, John Mueller, Mark Stewart, Richard Roth, Stephen Lord, and so many others have researched and written on this extensively.

      • SicSemperTyrannis

        I’m not sure if you are saying that profiling doesn’t work, but the Israelis do it, they are experts at it, and haven’t suffered a terrorist attack in many a years, although they are the single biggest target out there.

        • CelticWhisper

          Israeli profiling does work, but there are a number of differences between Israel and the US, as well as practical concerns, to indicate that it wouldn’t work the same way in the States.

          -Israel doesn’t have a Bill of Rights that prohibits prison-style interrogations of air passengers. There are significant Constitutional concerns that would have to be addressed if it were to work here.
          -Israeli security staff are actually well-educated and thoroughly-trained experts unlike the knuckle-draggers at TSA.
          -Israeli profiling is behavor-based as well as racial, and from the farce that is SPOT coupled with the reports of TSA clerks calling themselves “Mexicutioners,” we have no reason to believe TSA could actually pull off Israeli-style profiling without it turning into blatant racism with a “you acted all shifty!” wrapper as an excuse.
          -Israel is nowhere near the size of the US. The have one airport to secure with nowhere near the number of flights we have. It just wouldn’t scale to how we operate. You think security(-theater) lines are bad NOW, just wait.

          In short, good idea, but it’s just not practical given the reality of US air travel.

        • Enough with the shibboleth about Israeli security. Though Israel has eliminated terrorism on planes, they’ve learned to accept it in other venues — buses, cafes, marketplaces. Bombs still go off there.

          Israeli security is also abusive. If you’re the “right” type, you’ll be ushered quickly through. If you’re the “wrong” type, you’ll get a thorough going-over, including being roughed up (I know people to whom this has happened). And if you’re a peace activist — forget it; you’ll be cavity-searched in a back room. Just ask Holocaust survivor Hedy Epstein, who’s written about her experience:
          http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2011/05/holocaust-survivor-hedy-epstein-aipac-does-not-speak-for-me/

          In another story from Israel, two American girls with Arab-sounding last names were detained, strip-searched, and deported by Israeli security (they were also forced to reveal passwords to their email and networking sites):
          http://www.travelunderground.org/index.php?threads/arab-americans-having-email-etc-read-being-strip-searched-on-arrival-to-israel.3602/

          There’s no such thing as 100% security, anywhere. The belief of so many Americans that there is, is why they’re willing to bend over and spread ’em every time an authority figure tells them to. They cherish the fantasy of security more than the reality of life. Life entails risk. And the risk of being killed by a terrorist attack in this country is so vanishingly small it can barely be quantified.

          Anyone who’s so afraid A Terrorist Is Hiding Around Every Corner, do us all a favor and stay home cowering under the bed. The rest of us have lives to lead.

  • Lars

    Ok, I have to get back to my job now, but can we find the part where this girl was assaulted? Maybe it was when her mom shoeved a camera in her face to show her cry, and she was traumatized by the ridiculous scene that was being causes FOR NO GOOD REASON!

    • ^^ Lars is a TROLL. Pathetic.

      • monsterzero

        I am also waiting for the assault.

  • Assault and traumatize my ass if you don’t like it then FUCKING DRIVE, this is done for the general publics safety.

    • CelticWhisper

      Rights and human dignity are more important than safety. Freedom entails risk. If you don’t like that risk, then don’t fly.

      • Lars

        Did you honestly just say that? You want 10 seconds to re-read that and maybe edit it dude?

        • CelticWhisper

          I did indeed just say that. I did indeed just state that there are things in life that are more important than life itself. The inalienable rights that people (American citizens in particular, but all human beings in general to be honest) possess, by way of their nature as human beings, are among those things. What value is life if it is not a life worth living? If it cannot be lived in freedom, without authoritarian government actors dictating the terms of something so simple and essential as the freedom to travel?

          “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of
          chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course
          others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” -Patrick Henry

          I could do without the god bit, but the sentiment rings absolutely true.

          • Lars

            Umm.. isn’t one of those rights you speak of “Life” itself? And my pursuit of happiness is going to be SEVERELY hampered if I am Dead.

      • Chris

        Dumbest thing I have ever read

    • ^^Anthony is a TROLL. Pathetic.

    • Anthony, baaaaa.

      • Lars

        Ohhhh a sheeple reference. Is this kinda like the Meow game in SuperTroopers? Or do you get paid every time you make that joke?

      • ZBooty

        Anthony’s new to this thread, he won’t just get the “baaaa” reference. Tell him what you really think he is, Lisa.

    • I take nothing back about this statement. This is unfortunately the world we live in today and what has to be done has to be done. She should be more worried about the 60+ videos of her little child on youtube with all of the pedophiles out there then having to take 10 mins of her time to just get checked out by security as a precaution.

    • listen you hippie left wingers…if you don’t like TSA, don’t fly on a commercial airliner in the USA. Simple fucking solution. The thing I never understand with videos like these is when the person being inconvenienced asks “Does my 3 year old look like a terrorist?” Umm no but what terrorist tries to look like a terrorist? Or how do we know that a terrorist didn’t do something to the wheelchair at some point knowing it wouldn’t be checked? Yeah it sounds outrageous but so does blowing an airplane out of the sky.

      • Dolt

        Not that facts matter to those of you who talk like this, but here’s a fun fact: Lots of us on here would be called “right wingers” by other crowds of people. Inalienable Rights are for everyone, regardless of politics.

        • ZBooty

          Nice response by someone with the moniker “Dolt.”

          • Dolt

            Deflect to my choice of username rather than comment on the substance of my words? I’d expect nothing less.

          • ZBooty

            You just didn’t say anything worth commenting on, hence why I deflected to the only obvious reason for that.

      • SicSemperTyrannis

        How often does a terrorist look like a terrorist? Are you kidding me? Last time I checked, every person who has tried to commit terrorist acts going back to and including 9-11 looked exactly like picture book terrorists. You do realize that, don’t you wizard?

        • ZBooty

          So, you definitely mean Middle Eastern, correct? That’s what a picture book terrorist looks like?

          • SicSemperTyrannis

            No, I mean Icelandic.

  • Lars

    Here’s a fun hypothetical… Do we search everyone who goes through randomly… or do we want to start profiling? Pick your poison. Actually, is there a way we can do both?

    I know more ppl die from driving each year (who ever used that cute little fact failed to recognize that there are many more ppl on the roads each day than flying)… but what percentage of those ppl die behind the wheel because of something out of there control… like a bomb in the trunk? I’d venture to say 0.0%.

  • Pat

    I am not going to keep going down and responding to specific comments it’s tiring and I don’t even know why I am writing this. The TSA could stop a person walking into an airport with enough explosives to take out a small country and it is blatantly obvious the people on this blog would find something wrong with they did. Apparently I am a TSA apologist for condoning this search even though I will readily admit a lot of TSA practices and employees are awful. Keep talking down to people with different opinions than you and talking like you are the only people in the world who know anything, I’m sure it does you real well in the real world making friends. A lot of how this was handled was terrible, but the mother should not be flashing a camera in the face of a child in an already emotional time (youtube page or not, shes 3 years old not 16. just a nonsense comment). Well thats my 2 cents and Im sure I’ll get more hate and stupidly respond to that as well, but I guess thats the nature of the internet beast.

    • SicSemperTyrannis

      Ah, blame the Mom. Nice.

      • Pat

        Yes because thats 100% the point I was making. Good job finding that one line and ignoring everything else I said, especially the part about how I said a lot of this was handled terribly.

    • ^^Pat is a TROLL. Pathetic.

      • Dylan

        Just want to make sure you know that “troll” is not a euphemism for “someone I disagree with”

  • monsterzero

    You don’t like it? Don’t fly.

    • ZBooty

      That’s the real issue at hand here. Nobody would say anything if it were a full grown man in a turban being jostled because he had explosive residue on his hands. It would be applauded. Wheelchair children can’t have special privileges just because they can’t walk and can do fake cries on command.

      • ZBooty, you’re mistaken. We believe in civil liberties for all people.

        • ZBooty

          …until somebody dies. Then the TSA fucked up, right? Good call Lisa.

          • CelticWhisper

            Incorrect. Then the risk that naturally comes with liberty has reared its ugly head and we must all remain vigilant that our rights are not sacrificed upon the altar of safety. We mourn, we weep, we comfort one another, we honor the dead, and we continue on to show the killers that we will not be terrorized.

          • ZBooty

            Yeah? Because that’s how we reacted collectively the last time, huh?

          • CelticWhisper

            No it’s not, and I lost respect for the US when it happened. I’d like to think that we can learn from our mistakes but perhaps I’m clinging to any shred of optimism I can find so I don’t go utterly insane at seeing what the USA has rotted into.

          • Again, TROLL. Grow the F*ck up, Zbooty. Or perhaps get a job. One that involves a lot of flying. Wear nice undies–the TSA appreciates that.

          • ZBooty

            I am gainfully employed and I have a master’s degree in engineering. I just have the day off and decided to come visit you nice people.

      • 1amwendy

        So I went over to that barroom site where all you dudes seem to hang. I think I’d like you better if you all collectively grew some. What a bunch of pansy-ass wimps you are. Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?

        • ZBooty

          You were just there, and you can’t remember that it’s called “Barstool” and not “Barroom?” How can you consider yourself worthy of arguing anything if you have the memory span of a goldfish?

          • Lars

            I think she was trying to belittle us, showing she didn’t give us enough credence to remember the name of the site. It’s something petty people do

          • ZBooty

            They also call people with differing opinions “sheeple.”

          • 1amwendy

            LOL you guys crack me up… pansy-ass fraidy-cats. As I said before – why don’t you grow some — or grow up and study statistics and risk assessment. Or do anything similarly useful with your lives. Something besides having a grown-up check your closets before you go to bed. You know, for monsters and the like.

          • ZBooty

            Wendy, your responses have been 100% senseless drivel. You have said nothing to further the conversation. Grow some —? What the fuck are you, a six year old girl in a wheelchair? If you have nothing valuable to add for either side then just go home.

          • Lars

            Right, we sure are those things. And I like how you assume we’re uneducated. Risk assessment and statistics work great in a lot of things, but I’m fairly certain human lives are pretty valuable, especially to the individual.
            While you’re working away on your third useless degree in the french horn to compliment you useless pre-psych degree, I’ll be working away at my job doing real world things. It’s funny how the real world affects my views on REAL WORLD ISSUES. So petty and unbecoming to assume we’re good for nothing. Not that I am surprised though

          • 1amwendy

            Okay, brilliant one. So I accept the fact that you are afraid of a highly improbable risk. Your choice… rather stupid, IMHO, but your choice. And before you assume anything else about me I would suggest that you go read this… http://tsanewsblog.com/6153/news/report-on-the-tsa-aviation-security-advisory-committee/. I’m fairly certain that my accomplishments in life outshine yours.

          • Dylan

            Please start listing them.

          • 1amwendy

            LOL since you didn’t care to go read them, here goes:
            Mensa member. Graduate degree in business summa cum laude. 2 patents. Self-made millionaire. Non-profit officer. Successful parent. Classically trained musician (that’s actually made some money at it). Oh – and all of that with an artificial leg and birth-defective arm, gratis my father being stationed in Hiroshima after WWII. Raise and call.

          • ZBooty

            Stop trolling.

          • 1amwendy

            Can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen, pansy-waist.

          • CelticWhisper

            Game. Set. Match.

          • Lars

            Wendy, do you have to pay royalties to Lisa for that Sheep/Wolf reference?

      • ^^ Zbooty is a TROLL. Pathetic.

    • monsterzero, I don’t. At least not in/from this country. I stopped in September 2010, just before the Reign of Molestation was implemented. But you should know that the TSA has infested all forms of transportation, not just airports, which was predictable. Google VIPR. Or put it into the search box on this blog.

      • monsterzero

        The TSA employees are just doing their job. They are people the same as us. Often times they are treated with disrespect and hostility for no good reason and most times they take it with dignity. I watched the video, there was absolutely no assault. And the child was certainly upset but traumatized is pushing it. I believe you have an agenda and you’re using this video as propaganda.

    • Hope you get your tiny manbits groped at the next football game, monsterzero. You TROLL. Because you did know the TSA are showing up at sports stadiums, bus stations, train stations, and even roadsides for random pull-overs–not just airports, right? You didn’t? Well, now you do.

      • monsterzero

        my manbits ain’t that tiny and they’ve been groped before during routine searches. but you know what? big F’n deal. I’m able to get over it. matter of fact I aim for the female officers on purpose for the freebie. and what is considered a troll anyways? if it’s someone that disagrees with a bunch of uppity cunts then I am guilty as charged! Fuck You! goodnight!

  • Lars

    “TSA News is an independent blog that covers the
    Transportation Security Administration. We are dedicated to writing
    about the agency with fairness, balance and accuracy.” I read that little mission statement AFTER I read all of you comments and I still think it’s the most foolish thing on this page. Fairness and balance…. surrrree.

    Furthermore, my sister is in an electric wheelchair that gets searched and inspected each and every time it goes through the airport. The batteries on those things are huge and it wouldn’t take an engineer to figure out how to make it go boom, espcially as it is tucked away in the cargo hold. And as we’ve seen, the people who want to hurt us have no line in the sand they will not cross. If we’re about to avoid an uncomfortable situation (which was only made worse by this soccer mom) at the risk of the lives of the other 150 to 300 people on that plane, I do not like where we are heading. The rights of one individual end where those of another begin. The other people on that plane have rights too people.

    • monsterzero

      right on Lars.

      • Troll, troll, troll. How old *are* you imbeciles?

        • Dylan

          Quit trolling.

        • monsterzero

          troll: N. someone that does not agree with a bunch of uppity cunts.

    • ZBooty

      Lars and the Real Argument.

    • Lars, then I guess you’re fine with the fact that while you’re getting a reach-around, most of the cargo is still going into the hold unscreened.

      • Dylan

        If you’re calling what the TSA does a “reach around” you may need to look up what a reach around actually is. Each successive time you use complete hyperbole to try and make a point your argument gets weaker.

        • No, Dylan, perhaps you need to do a little research. The “Master List” tab at the top might help.

          • Dylan

            Perhaps you should respond to the comment rather than dismissing people by saying they don’t do enough research? Thus far you’ve done nothing but denigrate other people’s intelligence, call them names, and make proclamations based on nothing. And you wonder why people dismiss you.

        • Dolt

          You are right. It is not performed from behind as a “reach around” would indicate. Instead TSA scum prefer to look directly at the organs they are sexually assaulting.

          • Dylan

            I’m not arguing that. I’m arguing that the over the top use of hyperbole diminishes her argument.

    • Again, TROLL. No logic, no intelligence, just the sick enjoyment of arguing with people. F*ck off, Lars.

  • ZBooty

    I am so upset after watching this. God, I’m glad it’s finally being brought to light: parents suck these days. This little girl is not special, and she does NOT deserve special treatment. They need to check her every day of the week, and twice on Sundays. The terrorists will use wheelchairs. Disney is an evil corporation and Disneyworld is dirty. Don’t let her fly!

    • ZBooty, I can only hope you’re being sarcastic. If not, you fit in nicely with the 1/3 of your fellow Americans who say they would be perfectly fine with a body-cavity search to board a plane. Congratulations.

      • ZBooty

        I would absolutely be fine with a cavity search. I have nothing to hide. You don’t like the TSA protecting you at all costs, then don’t ride on an airplane. Simple as that. This is how spoiled children that try hard at nothing are created. There are rules and regulations for a reason.

        • ZBooty, and there we have it! One of proud United Sheeple of America.

          • ZBooty

            You can’t call everyone “Sheeple of America” Lisa. It wasn’t funny when you called me that, and it wasn’t funny when you called Derek that either. At least call me a cock-sucker or something so that your comments can hold a little more merit and not leave you sounding like a single old lady with a “Gags for the John” book and a bone to pick.

          • RonBonner

            If you don’t want to be called “sheeple” then stop talking like one.

          • ZBooty

            You can’t use Lisa’s “sheeple” joke, Ron. You’re molesting her right to use it by using it as your own.

          • Dylan

            So disagreeing that the above was assault and molestation automatically makes you a sheeple. Got it.

          • Lars

            Hey lisa, you must have the little saying copywritten or something. Seems like you have used it in each conversation you have butted into.

        • CelticWhisper

          ZBooty – Please take a moment to read this article. It illustrates why “Nothing to hide” doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. It’s written from a technical perspective, but a Google search for “nothing to hide fallacy” will bring up many more results showing why we actually do have a LOT to hide, and not because any of us have done anything wrong.

          • CW, he was supposed to have learned that concept in 5th grade civics. No amount of logic is going to penetrate. This is why we have a police state in this country. Because so many Americans are in favor of it.

          • ZBooty

            Oh, no, no, no, dear Lisa. I am in no way, shape, or form in favor of this police state. I really just couldn’t stand the way that idiot mother was reacting to a simple wanding and how willing people were to say that that child had been traumatized and molested. You know what? She had some dicey shit on her hands, in many countries that gets you shot on site.

          • I know, we’re so lucky we don’t get shot on sight — there’s an argument for the ages.

            As for “dicey shit on her hands,” again, for the umpteenth time, that includes hand lotion, glycerine, fertilizer. All of that innocuous stuff shows up as “bomb-making residue.” That’s the brilliance of TSA’s 21s century technology. I would append a link here with actual facts, but every time I do I’m accused of being condescending. Tsk tsk.

          • ZBooty

            And this mother thought, “Hey, it’s been a real shitstorm with the TSA and they don’t allow ANYTHING to be on you at all including lotion. But, don’t worry, my child’s in a wheel chair she shouldn’t be checked.” Then freaks the fuck out when TSA says “well, ma’am, she couldn’t have that shit on her so now we have to check everything on her. Thanks for wasting everyone’s time.” and that’s MOLESTATION? You are a part of why this country is insane. Every spectrum has two ends, you wing nut.

          • Dylan

            Hey Lisa- maybe people would be more open to listening to you if you didn’t automatically label them as intellectually inferior? Just a thought.

          • But you *are* intellectually inferior. I have read though all these ridiculous trolling comments and seen only one pathetic attempt to annoy and derail after another. No actual, solid arguments for you so-called positions–because there are none. What you are is obvious, but for Christ’s sake, grow up and get a f*cking life, guys. You make 4Chan look mature.

          • Dylan

            I wonder if you grasp the irony in your statement. You’ve done nothing but insult people and call them trolls for not agreeing with you. No argument, no point, no conversation. Just name calling and dismissal.

    • TROLL. Lisa, these imbeciles are not even aware who wrote this.

  • Forget the politicians and the media, if people started writing letters (paper and snail mail) to Disney et al and saying that they will not be coming to the park any more because they will not subject their child (or themselves) to being molested at the airport, the TSA would go away. Including a copy of the complaint filed with the TSA would lend credibility to these letters.

    • Michael, right on. Economic boycotts work. Always have, always will. The civil rights movement wouldn’t have succeeded without them, as MLK acknowledged. That’s why I stopped flying in 2010 and why I keep urging an economic boycott of the airlines for those of us who aren’t forced to fly, which is most people.

      But we’re nowhere near that point of mass resistance yet in this country. Just look at all the Terrorists-Are-Around-Every-Corner people bleating in these comments. And all it would take is one attack, no matter how small, whether real or false flag, and people would fall right into line. We’re already living in a police state; it would only become even worse.

  • Pat

    I hate to say it but everyone would be singing a completely different tune if something had managed to be snuck on /in the chair or if the parents were lunatics. Some extra care should be taken in these situations but you can’t skip it either.

    • CelticWhisper

      I, for one, would not. I would feel bad for those injured or killed in the attack, but liberty necessarily entails risk and that would be a case of that risk coming to fruition. Nothing should change if it happens. We would, as always, do well to heed the words of Bruce Schneier – the best response to attempts at terrorism is to simply refuse to be terrorized. Reject the mentality of fear and terror, and you defang terrorism in one deft stroke.

      Considering the number of flights that run per day and the fact that the last successful attack on air travel was 11 years ago, I would say that a wheelchair bomb going off and taking down one flight would still be a statistically-irrelevant anomaly and certainly nowhere near grounds enough to massively encroach on the inalienable (let that word sink in for a minute, it doesn’t get used often enough these days) rights of an entire nation.

      Unless, of course, one works for TSA, in which case Bill in Accounting’s latest story about his toy poodle’s bowel movements constitutes grounds to eviscerate the liberties of the people even more. That or the fact that TSA thinks it’s just plain fun to puke all over the Constitution.

      • Pat

        Yes the last successful attack was 11 years ago and I do believe the efforts made at airports have a lot to do with that. The child I feel bad for in this situation but the fact that the mom made a scene and taped all of this is what probably made the child realize this is out of the ordinary and made her cry. It would have taken 3 minutes otherrwise. Yes, it is within her legal right to do so, but it is also my legal right for thinking she is being a bad mother for taping it rather than soothing her child and expediting the process. As long as people want to kill us because we are Americans, precautions need to be taken.

        • CelticWhisper

          The only way the “efforts,” if the laughably pathetic (when they’re not jaw-droppingly offensive) actions taken by TSA can be called that, have helped is that they have flat-out done the terrorists’ job for them and cowed the American public into submission and timidity.

          Before his death, Osama Bin Laden spoke of the US heading toward “an unbearable hell and a choking life.” That’s exactly how I would describe the state of our nation’s airports. TSA has fulfilled its own sworn enemy’s mission beyond that enemy’s wildest expectations.

          As for the mother recording the events, I’m glad she did. I think it would have been preferable to see her use a wearable camera like a watch/pen/eyeglass camera so she could have hands free to interact with her child (oh, wait, TSA doesn’t let parents comfort their terrified children) but either way, it’s important for TSA to never, ever be able to get away with abusing passengers without evidence against the agency. Ideally, TSA employees would suffer health complications from chronic stress due to knowing they’re constantly being filmed from multiple angles and that people are out for their blood, ready to jump on any tiny mistake they make for a multi-million dollar settlement that will surely result in the TSA clerk’s termination. Recording serves a dual purpose – actually having the material necessary to hang TSA clerks out to dry and also as a figurative sword of Damocles dangling over their heads, reminding them that We The People WILL hold them accountable whether they like it or not (and hopefully driving several of them to an early death from stress heart attacks).

          • Pat

            I read that story. And yes I understand the word allegedly, but seems you forgot about the little bomb residue part. Are there some things the TSA does that are awful and people need to be fired for overstepping bounds and being terrible people? Of course. I can also find those people who work at the local wal mart doing produce not washing their hands. I can sit here and try and look up articles online about this or that or another thing.. but the simple fact is I feel that If things like this are going to make myself and other people flying safer then do it. You say that things like planes blowing up and others of the like are statistical anomalies? Well so are stories like this, difference is the media seeks them out and are easier to find. Maybe you should look up some things that the TSA has prevented.

          • Right. That’s why the Master List (click tab at top of page) is full of THOUSANDS of accounts of TSA abuse. Because they’re so rare.

            And do tell us about all the “things that the TSA has prevented,” when even their own spokespeople have admitted publicly that they haven’t prevented a damn thing. Oh, but there I go again with those pesky facts.

          • CelticWhisper

            That’s my point – they haven’t prevented shit. They trumpet about all the “dangerous” items they confiscate, but the fact is that all those items are only dangerous to human bodily tissue – not to the functionality of an airliner. Guns, knives and nunchakus CANNOT bring down a plane. Bombs can, but again, TSA’s vaunted ETD swabbing has returned nothing but false positives on everything from hand lotion to golf-course fertilizer. The fact of the matter is that airplanes are a played-out target for terrorists – there’s no psychological harvest left to reap from attacking them. The paradigm shift has already happened there – cockpit doors are locked and reinforced, pilots are armed, and passengers will go Hannibal Lecter on anyone who tries to hijack a plane. Mark my words, if we’re going to see another terrorist attack against any part of the air travel infrastructure, it’s going to be against the security line where more than one planeload worth of passengers can be attacked with no security measures to stop it. That’s where people can be made to feel vulnerable, that’s where the opportunity for a paradigm shift lies.

          • Pat

            I will absolutely admit that what I said was probably taken wrong but what I mean to say and what I type don’t always sync. Has the TSA ever stopped a full blown terrorist attack? no. But I also know in the few years directly after 9/11 they made America feel much safer. Just because it hasn’t happened in a few years doesn’t mean it won’t happen again. After 93 everyone assumed the WTC was untouchable… they found a way. Different example but I feel it works.

          • CelticWhisper

            They did indeed. They made America feel safer, without doing anything at all to actually impact real security.

            I’m in agreement with those who advocate screened and unscreened flights, though. If people are so hellbent on warm fuzzies and feelings of safey-safey-safety, then give them that as an option. Meanwhile, for those of us who have come to terms with the fact that risk is a part of life, give us flights with pre-9/11 landside security and locked, reinforced cockpit doors. Hell, go one better and issue passengers baseball bats, crowbars, machetes and brass knuckles as they get on the plane. I guarantee no hijacker will even consider that plane.

          • Pat

            I agree with the screened/unscreened flights. but I can also say if a bonafide lunatic wants to blow up a plane he will, regardless of who has what on that plane.

          • RonBonner

            Feeling safe does not meanbeing safe.

        • You obviously didn’t watch the video. Or click any of the links. She did try to comfort her child, as have so many other parents (again, click the fricking links), only to be told she wasn’t allowed.

          • Pat

            Lisa I’m going to answer you first because they way you are talking and responding to people is laughable really. Talking down to people who have differing opinions does not make you smarter or better it makes you an internet comment board bigot. and I did do that actually. pushing a camera in a childs face is not comforting I am sorry,

          • Pushing a camera in a child’s face?? If you’d clicked any of the links, you’d say that this family has a YouTube channel. The little girl is used to seeing a camera, especially in the hands of her trusted parents. It’s the TSA agents who don’t want the camera “pushed” in their faces. Because they’re abusive thugs who don’t want their dirty work exposed.

            And talk about laughable — it’s you TSA apologists who keep saying “if you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.” Fine. Then that applies to the TSA as well. If they’re doing nothing wrong, they should have nothing to hide.

      • Lars

        Ok so (God forbid) when your family is part of this “statistical irrelevance”, that will comfort you at their grave side when you bury absolutely nothing? But we were allowed to walk onto the plane, so our liberty is protected. Some good Liberty does when you’re dead.

        When I’m 30,000 feet in the air traveling 600 miles an hour, the last thing I am thinking of is my liberty. I’m thinking about how I am probably pretty safe all things considered. And I for one do not want to be a statistical outlier. I want to be alive and enjoy my travels.

        • CelticWhisper

          Don’t we all. However, we can’t have it. Liberty and security are on opposite sides of a scale, and thus are engaged in a neverending balancing act. One of the core founding principles of the USA (before it became the United States of Homeland) was that liberty is the paramount concern and all others are to be considered only once liberty has been assured.

          Do you honestly think I haven’t considered what might happen if I or my loved ones are on the receiving end of a terrorist attack? “Devastated” scarcely begins to describe it. “Suicidal” is only a little bit closer. And that is precisely the reason that if it should ever happen, I must be prevented from influencing national policy – because I will be too distraught to think clearly. It is possible to be sympathetic and respectful of the losses people have suffered whilst still declining to indulge every demand they make.

          And liberty can do good when you’re dead. It doesn’t do any good for the dead themselves, but those who have survived them can enjoy its blessings. I would only hope they remember the sacrifices that were made to win that liberty for them.

    • Pat: another straw man argument. Sigh. No one is saying we can “skip” security. But the same security that was in place for over 50 years of aviation, when we weren’t being stripped and groped, has worked. If it hasn’t, then where are all the planes being blown out of the sky left and right? You people never answer this question.

      • Pat

        What group are you lumping me into by saying “you people”? Also you really can’t use the past 50 years argument… I think a few things might have changed in that period of time. People are not being blown out of the sky left and right and to be honest I would be afraid of what a terrorist might try and use as a means to do it next. If the camera was not there and the mother was not making a huge deal this whole thing would have lasted about 3 minutes and they would have been on their way.

        • “You people” = TSA apologists.

          And for the umpteenth time, only 2 things have made another 9/11 unlikely: the cockpit doors have been secured, and passengers will no longer silently submit — which is more than I can say for TSA apologists, who are only too happy to bend over and spread ’em.

          • Pat

            No you are 100% correct. no terrorist attack will ever happen again on an airplane because of those 2 things being taken care of. There’s no way someone would ever hide something on a wheelchair (or other unsuspecting object) because searching it would hurt peoples feelings. People who want to kill other people are usually nice and obvious about the way they do it.

          • Pat, I think you watch too many cheesy action flicks.

          • Pat

            Actually no I don’t. I just realize a person who wanted to blow up a plane could easily watch this, see the backlash, and put something on a wheelchair because TSA is now going to be too terrified to search one.

          • Don’t forget about those booby bombs and butt bombs! Surely you think we should all get cavity-searched before we get on a plane? After all, you want to be safe, don’t you?

            And what about detonating a bomb in the security line itself, or anywhere in the concourse, as was done in Domodedovo? How are you going to prevent that? How is groping and stripping us going to prevent that?

          • Pat

            Well its not going to prevent that but thats not what this argument is about is it? This is about boarding a plane. If I go through a checkpoint and something I can’t explain doesn’t check out, yes please do search me. It makes me feel better knowing it would happen to the next person as well. It might not be with you specifically, but If this wheelchair was not searched and it was in fact dirty, the backlash would be 200% worse nationally.

          • Yes, Pat, by all means, whatever makes you feel better, even if it shits on the Bill of Rights. We’ve eviscerated that argument nicely here, not that it will make a dent:

            http://tsanewsblog.com/5590/news/your-pants-may-be-cleared-but-baggage-still-goes-unscreened/

    • Pat

      Well I wrote this a long time ago and it reposted by itself? does that happen often?

  • Derek

    Please. What if that mom was a terrorist and was using her daughter to smuggle something? More reason to search her! They didn’t do anything wrong and handled themselves professionally. I know if I was a TSA agent, I wouldn’t be the one who allowed someone to go through who was up to no good.. You people on this site should be ashamed.

    • Derek, your comment is so twisted and pathetic there’s no point in rebutting it. You’re one of the United Sheeple of America. Here’s hoping you get a taste of your own medicine one day.

      • Derek

        I just flew a month ago to get to a cruise. I was randomly selected to extra search. It took 5 extra minutes and I felt safer they did it. You hope I get my medicine? What is that? Searched for illegal or dangerous substances? I hope you don’t get your own medicine because I fear that if we don’t check people, another 911 could happen.

        • Right, Derek, because in all the years before the Reign of Molestation was implemented — meaning in all the years before October 30, 2010 — planes were being blown out of the sky left and right.

          Oh, but I’m sorry to bother you with pesky facts, when fear-mongering is so much more fun.

          • Derek

            Fear mongering. Please. Do you want all airport security to go away or do you just want them to stand there and wave to you as you go by? I know there have been instances where a TSA agent has overstepped some boundaries and I don’t condone that, but you can’t sit there and truly believe that the TSA is all no good.

          • CelticWhisper

            We can and do believe exactly that – TSA is no good at all. There is nothing TSA has done that private, airline-funded security screeners haven’t in the years before TSA was created.

            Oh, wait, that’s not true. TSA has presented a Morton’s Fork scenario of electronic strip-search vs. sexual assault by a government clerk who has legal immunity against lawsuits or prosecution for sexual misconduct.

            I’ll take the pre-9/11 screeners back, thank you very much.

          • Lars

            So the pree 9/11 screeners who allowed box cutters onto planes… you like their work? Seems like that’s something you’d want to catch next time. And, perhaps… just maybe these dirtbag terrorists look at the TSA and say “ok guys, we got one by the goalie that time, looks like airplanes aren’t gonna work anymore though… let’s find something else”

          • CelticWhisper

            Box cutters are irrelevant now. Remember that box cutters were explicitly ALLOWED at the time 9/11 was pulled off. Box cutters weren’t what allowed the attacks to succeed – passenger complacency and cooperation was. The paradigm of hijackings was “just cooperate, do what they want, endure an 8-hour diversion to Cuba and you’re back on track to your vacation.”

            Now that we know that’s not true, even a machine gun won’t be enough to bring down a plane. Passengers will tear hijackers apart because they know the alternative is very possibly death for everyone aboard.

            As for “getting one by the goalie,” I agree. However, the target is likely to be the checkpoint itself.

          • RonBonner

            FAA screening rules allowed box cutters on the plane just like sharp pointed scissors are allowed today.

          • Steven

            Every time you call what the TSA does “sexual assault” you do a disservice to those of us who were actually molested growing up. Please don’t compare the two.

          • CelticWhisper

            How, then, would you classify the unwelcome touching of the penis, labia, testicles, scrotum, breasts and buttocks, under duress, as a condition of boarding an airliner? If not sexual assault, then what is it?

          • Derek, try reading the blog instead of twisting words. Nobody here is saying or has ever said that “all airport security should go away.” I love how people pull out straw man arguments when they can’t defend their positions.

          • 1amwendy

            Derek, if you want to live in a padded cell somewhere, please feel free. As a woman with an artificial leg and a former frequent flyer, I talk great exception to your position. Those of us with medical appliances get checked all the time. Every time. In places that don’t even alarm. So you want me subjected to dozens and dozens of gropes and strip searches so you “feel safer.” Well isn’t that grand. The cost of your “feeling safer” is that those of us on the other side of the equation feel as if someone tattooed a number on our arms and gave us an armband to wear. Or that we are “driving while black.” This is supposed to be a free society. I am not supposed to be held hostage and groped for a risk that is getting small enough to be immeasurable, just for you to “feel safer.” Please remember that in the past 11+ years there have been NO TERRORISM CHARGES for anyone assaulted by the TSA. None. So please get over yourself and try to grasp the concept of freedom: you know, the one that Americans have fought for for nearly 250 years.

        • RonBonner

          Feeling safe doesn’t mean you are safe. TSA has a dismal track record on Red Team tests. TSA has bought several scrrening systems that don’t work or have high false positives, including body scanners and explosive trace detectors. Locked cockpit doors and alert travelers are what’s keeping us safe.

    • You don’t have unskilled workers catch terrorists at the airport — you have highly trained intelligence officers using probable cause and targeting their resources and rooting out terrorist plots. It is a vast waste of money — and beyond stupid — to treat every American who gets on a plane as a potential terrorist. Moreover, the reason planes were flown into buildings on 9/11 — the reason terrorists were able to enter the cockpit — was that we’d always figured terrorists wanted a bag of money and a trip to Bolivia. Now we have a better understanding and this will not happen again.

    • ZBooty

      I would use my child as a means to carry weapons if I knew that I could get away with it and I was a terrorist. I say search kids harder.

  • LFH0

    Minor correction. The sentence, “First, there is the obvious Fourth Amendment violation against unwarranted search and seizure,” is not quite true. The government may conduct “unwarranted” searches, i.e., searches without warrants granted on probable cause. The Fourth Amendment states that only “unreasonable” searches require such a warrant. The sentence would be more accurate if it read, “First, there is the obvious Fourth Amendment violation against unreasonable search and seizure in the absence of a warrant based on probable cause.”

    I state no opinion here as to whether or not this search was “reasonable” or “unreasonable.” Unfortunately, jurisprudence here is rather complex, revolves around the doctrine of “special needs” of the government to justify an “administrative search,” includes several factors for courts to balance in making that determination, and makes it difficult to determine definitively here the extent to which the constitution protects our rights (see, e.g., MacWade v. Kelly, 460 F.3d 260 (2d Cir. 2006), available at http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-2nd-circuit/1252582.html).

    • I’m well aware of the law, and of the administrative search exception. That is why we were required to remove any large metal jewelry and belt buckles (etc.), walk through metal detectors, submit to being wanded if a secondary screening was necessary to resolve an ambiguity, and submit our private, personal belongings to x-ray scrutiny. This was an unwarranted, but given the tiny possibility of a risk, reasonable search.

      Again, THAT was reasonable. THAT is how they continue to detect people’s inadvertently-forgotten Swiss Army knives, firearms, throwing stars, etc., the finds that the risible TSA blog loves to brag about, evan as they corral people and force them through potentially dangerous x-ray machines, and/or grope their bodies, as though they were errant sheep in a meadow, not innocent taxpayers trying to get from Point A to Point B in their own country.

      What takes place now is completely *unreasonable*. It is violative. It is wrong. It is unnecessary. It smacks of fascist creep.

      It has been proven again and again that the radiation scanners do not show certain materials and objects, nor objects placed in a certain manner, on or in the body.

      And if you don’t think spending billions of taxpayer dollars in order to have stranger grope a three-year-old in a wheelchair, or grope the genitalia of elderly people, disabled people, rape victims, and people with PTSD–or do any number of stunningly abusive things to innocent Americans in the name of saving us from a manufactured bogeyman who floats on a cob-web thin statistical likelihood that approaches zero–while tens of thousands of people in this country die, EVERY YEAR, because they can’t afford to see a doctor, who die by scores of thousands on the country’s highways, who die of the influenza virus, even, you need to have your pedantic head examined. And you need to reconsider what this country is supposed to be about.

      What takes place now is completely unreasonable. It is violative. It is wrong. It is unnecessary. It smacks of fascist creep.

  • Kitten

    Sen Mary Landrieu and Sen David Vitter have ignored letters regarding the TSA — Landrieu even was in favor of increasing taxes to give the TSA more money. Rep. Cedric Richmond said that the way to avoid having a problem with going through the scanners was to go through the scanners.

  • DorothyP

    TSA employees would otherwise be on public assistance. But with a cheap poly-cotton uniform and a badge, they get to take their revenge on anyone they chose. This is disgusting and those “agents” should be publicly shamed by name.

    • Derek

      Shut up. How dare you look down upon people protecting us in the air? Sure there are bad seeds everywhere, but they did NOTHING wrong in this video. Chill out and be happy you aren’t killed in some 911-like event.

      • CelticWhisper

        Of course, how dare Dorothy exercise her constitutional right to criticize government?!? We should all mindlessly accept that everything that comes out of Washington is always doubleplusgood! I bet you were in favor of the Bush regime’s Total Information Awareness initiative too, weren’t you?

        The only thing TSA clerks have ever protected is their own asses by lying and covering for one another as they steal from passengers, abuse the elderly, traumatize children and dishonor veterans.

        9/11 will never happen again, and if TSA disappeared tomorrow (hey, we can dream, can’t we?) that would not change. Passengers will not allow 9/11 to happen again. The ONLY threat to air travel anymore is explosives in significant enough quantities to cause catastrophic structural damage to aircraft, and considering that TSA’s explosive-trace screening has had a 100% false-positive rate thus far, they’re doing all of jack shit to prevent bombings.

        If anything, TSA is creating a hazard by allowing large crowds of passengers to accumulate in their slow-as-molasses security lines. If I were a terrorist, I’d go boom when I’m standing in line before a security-theater checkpoint. It would have much greater psychological impact than blowing up a plane (been there, done that say the terrorists) and there’s nothing to stop it being done.

        If we want to improve transportation safety, the best thing we can do is to shitcan the TSA (don’t bother finding replacement jobs for the screening clerks-not-officers-not-agents, just let them starve), return to pre-9/11 landside passenger screening, and take the money that we would have wasted on an agency that has yet to catch a single terrorist and invest it in high-speed rail transit instead. Cheaper, more sustainable, more efficient, and more survivable in the event that something goes wrong (plus, disaster-response teams will have a much easier time driving a firetruck to a train derailment site than they will driving a firetruck 35,000 feet straight up).

      • And here’s a guy who says “shut up” lecturing the rest of us on how to have a discussion.

      • Daisiemae

        Yes, I’m so happy that TSA will prevent us being killed in some 911-like event.

        Oh, wait…I forgot. TSA clerks are being trained to save themselves, NOT us.

        http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/freedom-press-not-free/2013/jan/26/homeland-security-training-tsa-workers-save-themse/

      • Susan Richart

        Poor Derek, he obviously drinks a lot of the Kool-Aid.

  • Wintermute

    I am so angry after watching this. WTF is wrong with our once-great nation?! We’ve lost our collective minds if we, as a society, think this is in any way OK.

    • Derek

      You want a terrorist to see that we allow little kids on without checking them? Use your head!

      • RonBonner

        TSA attacking our children is unacceptable. If TSA wants to find some terrorist all they need do is look in a mirrow.

        Derek, do you work for TSA?

        • Derek

          No. I am a normal American. I didn’t see any assault and if the crazy mom just shut up, it would have been over in a few minutes. If you were the TSA, you would just let them go through? What if you did that and there were dangerous substances on her?

          • Derek, perhaps you should stay home cowering under the bed. You’re obviously ill equipped to handle everyday life, since you apparently think The Terrorists Are Everywhere!

            I certainly hope you’ve stopped driving — 35,000 traffic fatalities in this country every year. How many 9/11s is that? You haven’t stopped driving? Oops, there goes the argument that you’re concerned about safety.

          • Derek

            You’re not arguing apples to apples here. I’m not cowering at all. I’m just ok with security being in charge of safety. As for driving, I was a driver trainer for FedEX. Most accidents are caused by poor drivers or impaired drivers and if you are properly trained in defensive driving, you can avoid most accidents because you are aware of your surroundings.

          • Yes I am arguing apples to apples. It’s called risk assessment. Statistical analysis. Logic. Empirical evidence. Perhaps you’ve heard of these things.

          • Derek

            Why are you trying to insult me when I am trying to have a calm discussion about security? My main point on this thread is that they little girl was not molested, assaulted, or attacked. It was a simple request to check the chair and her person. Yes she was upset and I feel badly for her. I have a 3 year old and it would upset me too. The mother made it worse by filming it and arguing. Don’t think that our children don’t sense these things when they are happening. If her mom had stayed calm, the child wouldn’t have been as upset and it would have been done quickly.

          • Yes, Derek, blame the victim. We’re used to that mentality.

            If you’d clicked any of the links, you would have seen that the TSA does this routinely, and yes, it is child abuse, whether you recognize it or not.

          • RonBonner

            No one need insult you Derek, you’ve done the job for us.

          • Daisiemae

            Amen to that!

          • RonBonner

            Then you know that driving is many times more dangerous than flying terrorist and all considered.

          • wintermute

            I used to drive linehaul for Fed-Ex, and no amount of defensive driving will help when you’re hauling 40 tons and a moron cuts you off. Simple physics comes into play.

          • RonBonner

            It’s call risk assesment Derek. Seeing as how TSA has never found even one terrorist, keeping in mind almost 1.6 million people fly daily, the risk presented by this child was near nil.

            TSA could have quickly swabbed the chair for explodives and if positive gone a step further in the screening process but that would require the use of intelligence from the Terrorist Scumbag Agency.

            TSA has no concept of a security program, proven daily when TSA allows thousands of airport workers to access the airport secure areas without benefit of screening.

          • Derek

            THe mother would have filmed and argued that too…just to give you i video.

          • RonBonner

            So, TSA says filming is ok. It was TSA employees who had it wrong. Standard ops for TSA scumbags.

          • SicSemperTyrannis

            If I was in TSA, I would shoot myself for an obvious complete failure of life.

      • wintermute

        I assume you can site sources showing that terrorists are attempting to use children in wheelchairs to thwart airport security (hint: it does not take children in wheelchairs to thwart security, though I’m sure a child in a wheelchair could think of a dozen ways to do so)

        • Daisiemae

          That’s why TSA spends so much time terrorizing children in wheelchairs….because the three-year-olds are smarter than they are! They are totally intimidated by three-year-olds and absolutely must take them down a peg.

          • wintermute

            That would actually explain a lot 😉

      • Derek, clearly you have no idea how to responsibly and effectively screen passengers, including children, in a manner that still respects local and Federal laws against sexual and other forms of assault, not to mention people’s constitutional rights. And clearly you did not read the post properly, or you would not be shoving out that pathetic strawman that we who oppose this disgusting, violative agency are in any way suggesting that children, or anyone for that matter, be able to board planes without screeners “checking them”.

        It is the methods we vehemently oppose, not the screening altogether. Although it makes a convenient argument for people such as yourself who have no actual facts, statistics, and reason on their side, only the parroted talking points of the perpetually cowed.

        Sending a child through a metal detector, as we did before 9/11 and the Reign of Molestation and planes were not being blown out of the sky left and right–and as we should do for *all* passengers, of all ages–is sufficient. If a child is wheelchair-bound or on crutches, his or her parents should be permitted to carry him or her through the metal detector, and if there is an unresolved alarm, wanded (as before) to see if a belt buckle or piece of jewelry is causing it, as with able-bodied children and adults. Should there be a need to check a wheelchair, it can be done using swabs, while the child is in Mom’s arms.

        Use YOUR head, you sadistic little abuse apologist. If you want to live your life in fear–manufactured fear at that–and constantly submit to this non-risk-based, non-statistics-based, pointless, and unconstitutional Security Theater, perhaps you can get a significant other to dress up in a Halloween costume with a tin badge, confiscate your shampoo, then put on some blue nitrile gloves, and grope you where it hurts, even though it does nothing to keep you and her or him any of the populace at large safe. From anything. Even as it satisfies your apparent need for useless fearmongering and power-wielding

        Because that way, the effect of your private sadistic cosplay on the rest of the country, who prefer common sense and respect for everyone’s individual dignity in their security policies, would be nil.

        • CelticWhisper

          Wow. And that is what I like to call a verb-stomp.

          Thank you, Deborah N. Tornello. Nicely done.

  • 1amwendy

    Thank you, Deborah, for writing this. I was just too heartsick. If the TSA is not creating a barrier to a disabled person’s use and enjoyment of a public facility I don’t know what is considered a barrier. And that’s text right from the ADA.

  • i guess the tsa is the only place where you can molest children and not get introuble for it

    • CelticWhisper

      Well, now that the spotlight is shining on the RCC child-abuse scandals, the cockroaches (you know, like Thomas Harkins have to have SOMEwhere to go to hide.

  • Susan Richart

    I can’t bring myself to watch these videos any more as they are very disturbing. What airport did they leave from?

  • This country is sick. How are people allowing this to be done not only to themselves but to their children??

    • CelticWhisper

      I absolutely agree. I had another airport nightmare last night (though the out-of-left-field bit about the stegosaurus fighting the crocodile on the stairs makes me think I should check expiration dates in my spice cabinet) and I don’t expect them to stop anytime soon. I received another reply from Rep. Janice D. Scha-koward about how “I believe TSA is doing a good job keeping travelers safe and I do not support any effort to restrict or eliminate the agency” and another “I’m busy, f**k off” reply from Sen. Kirk stating that he contacted a liaison with TSA to pawn off the letter I sent him. I have every confidence that it will now be expertly ignored, according (of course) to TSA’s proper professional correspondence-ignoring procedures. Can’t wait to vote against Kirk and Durbin next time they’re up for reelection. Already voted against Schakowsky (Look up Tim Wolfe, and bear in mind that I generally lean left. Schakowsky’s stance on TSA is bad enough that I voted for THAT GUY instead.)

      I’m to the point where I have no love left at all for the country that sits between Canada and Mexico, and should I find myself in an economic position to leave it, I will do so and never look back. I will quite likely also seek to renounce my US citizenship once I attain citizenship in whatever country I leave for. Convincing the other half to go along with this plan will, of course, be necessary, but I would very much like to be able to spend my retirement (distant though it may be) in a nation other than the United States of Homeland.

      The US completely disgusts me, and TSA is 90% of the reason why.

      • Daisiemae

        I so totally agree with you. If there was any way possible, I would leave this country also. My husband and I are both disabled, and I can’t imagine moving across town much less to another country. If we were able bodied, I’d be gone like a flash.

        Keep in mind that I am a member of DAR and several other patriotic societies. I am a direct descendant of 17 Revolutionary War soldiers. Members of my family have fought in every single war this country was ever involved in.

        I have always LOVED to say the pledge of allegiance and sing the national anthem. But since this reign of terror was unleashed in 2010, I am thoroughly disgusted. I no longer want to say the pledge of allegiance. I am ashamed to be an American.

        I would leave if I could.

      • monsterzero

        go fuck yourself!

        • CelticWhisper

          You first.